This question of “is it worth it to get training” has been on our minds since we first began selling high-rise window equipment years ago. The answer has honestly always been yes for us, especially after we began to obsess over HR window cleaning and gained experience with the technical equipment needed on the job. The more we’ve learned over the course of the years, the more clear the answer has become for us. We even began to question how people in the high-rise window cleaning industry could manage not to get trained! However, we know that it takes resources and time to get trained, after all, if it’s not required to get a specific type of training, why would you cough up the money and make yourself go? But with the recent number of high-rise accidents and OSHA’s new Walking/Working Surface rulings, it seemed like a good time to ask some hard questions. We’ve decided to not just tell you why you should get trained in rope access (SPRAT), but rather, we’d like to show you.
This is the story of Todd Foor, the guy above in the pictures. Todd is a window cleaner in Arizona with the AZ Squeegee Squad. Todd is quite the high-rise (as well as traditional) window cleaner. Todd is also a sport rock climber with more than ten years under his belt. So why did Todd, after many years of climbing for fun, decide to get trained in Rope Access to use in high-rise window cleaning?
We went ahead and asked him.
A: (I’ve) been cleaning windows since 1988/89. (I) went into the army for a while, got out (and) went right back (to window cleaning), never did anything else… I was 19 and I am 47 now.
Q: And how long have you been a sport climbing for?
A: (My) first climb was Bastille in Eldo(rado, CO) in 1993. (Then) I started climbing sport routes with my mentor Darren Mabe (from Squeegee Squad Flagstaff, AZ) in 1998/1999. Now I primarily climb with my wife Sarah and daughters Alex and Justy.
Q: So why did you decide to get some rope access training through SPRAT?
A: The training is not mandatory yet but is a great selling point and a way to keep people working for me safe now that I have employees. Soon it will be mandatory and I hope to be ready.
Q: How much did it cost?
A: It was very affordable- less than 2k.
Q: Did you have to take time off work?
A: Yes I did, (that was) the hardest part for me.
Q: How long did the training take?
A: One intense week.
Q: What was the first step you took to get started with your training?
A: (The training was called) SPRAT level 1 at Abseilon USA with Ken Piposar. It’s a school here in Phoenix, AZ. Searched around in ’06 then bumped into Ken and spent three years chatting and discussing our visions. He has been very informative and supportive for me to (make the) transition into a company that is SPRAT operational.
Q: What was the training itself like?
A: There were a few days in a classroom setting and then to the rope course area. (We) spent the rest of time training on tasks until independent evaluations on Friday.
Q: Were there other professions there or only window cleaners?
A: Yes, (there were some) tower climbers and some wind energy guys. Ken has trained a lot of trades. Even pest control teams.
Q: What is the best thing you learned in training?
A: The butterfly knot and Petzl seat
Q: How would you say climbing has helped you become a force to be reckoned with in the window cleaning industry?
A: I think climbing and window cleaning have the same kind of challenges. They enhance each other and keep you very fit.
Q: And of course, last question, was it worth it?
A:It was worth it because at this time I assume the training is cheaper than it will ever be. As soon as it’s mandatory, the price will increase. I paid $1,300.00 to achieve level 1 (SPRAT). Then about $2-2,500.00 in new gear. Very affordable in my opinion.
Being safe always costs more. That’s why no one wants to do it. The market has not caught up with the need.
I will continue to spend on level 2,3 when I am qualified.
Now it’s your turn
Todd is a shining example of the good training does and how a little humility from a top notch climber can give you the information and training on safety techniques and even an edge in the high rise window cleaning market.
Of course, to counter that, we can come up with a dozen reasons preventing even the best intentioned high rise cleaner from getting rope access training. So, let’s talk.
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It’s also worth noting that there are other training options out there. SPRAT is fantastic and about as in-depth of training as you can get, but it’s not currently required and some might consider a full week of intensive rope access overkill. Every window cleaner should consider going through the IWCA safety course. Find out more info and their current schedule here. Also consider taking your OSHA 10 hour. A quick Google search will reveal dozens of places that you can do it in person or online.
If you do choose to do SPRAT, which we think is an awesome idea, there are lots of great companies that you can use. In particular, we’ve worked a lot with Vertical Rescue Solutions.
Thanks, Todd, we know you’re the man and now everyone else gets a little taste of your awesomeness too. If you’re in AZ, you should talk to this man. He is a veteran (in both military service and the window cleaning industry) and a bad ass in his own right. Az Squeegee Squad, look him up.